Business Shenanigans and the Tip of the Spear: A Conversation with Marc Minor, Financial Services Expert and Seton Hall Law Professor

On this episode, I chat with Marc Minor, who is a busy man—he is founder and president of CJM Consulting; serves as Marstone, Inc.’s Chief Compliance Officer; and is also an adjunct professor at Seton Hall’s law school! Marc is currently teaching a course that covers everything FinTech: robo-advisors, big data, AI, digital currency, cybersecurity, and more.

We discuss Marc’s pivot from investigative journalism to law (thanks to a helpful journalism advisor) and his discovery that the law is “maybe the best tool ever” to “cast light” and “root out injustice.” To some degree, almost every role Marc has chosen has served to protect the individual and “root out injustice”—as well as develop his experience in “business shenanigan” lawyering, as he calls it (!).

Marc first discovered his love of "business shenanigans" when he served as an associate in private practice at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP. From that point, Marc has worked to protect the investing public in a variety of roles: from bureau chief for the New York and New Jersey Attorney General’s offices, to enforcement director with the Philadelphia Stock Exchange, to senior counsel with FINRA, to Assistant Attorney General for the New York Attorney General. And before that, Marc specialized in criminal law at both the Ohio Attorney General’s office and the Ohio Public Defender’s office—whew!

Marc and I chat about the transition from advising a client, to becoming the client (Marc likens it to “being shot out of a cannon”!). Marc also explains the process he used as a regulator to weigh enforcement actions, and the delicate balance involved between protecting the investing public—while ensuring continued market innovation.

And what about when Marc is not wearing his “law hat”? Well, he turns on WBGO and get some creative writing in during the late night hours. (In fact, Marc wrote a children’s book in law school—between classes! Color me impressed.) We talk about how writing can be an “act of catharsis” and how, as writers, we decide what might “make the cut”; the slow road to improvement; and the necessity of developing humility (and a thick skin!) in the editing process.

And since you’re listening to Entering the Bar, of course, Marc answers the most dangerous question of all—with diplomacy. Apparently after the bar, you should always “take your revelry to Dayton!” (Evidently, what happens in Dayton, stays in Dayton—at least during post-bar celebrations.)

Marc also imparts some sage advice for would-be lawyers: don’t wake up your study partners in the middle of the night to talk about exams! And finally—and even more importantly: don’t be afraid to take opportunities that might initially appear to be “outside of your lane.”

The music featured on this week's episode is “Entering the Bar Theme Music,” composed by Sam Carden for Entering the Bar®.

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Puppet Ponies and a Slow Saturday Night: A Conversation with Cara Parmigiani, Attorney-At-Law

On this episode, I speak with Cara Parmigiani, solo practitioner and multi-talented comic book artist, writer, producer, martial arts practitioner—and new mother. (From now on, I’ll simply call call her my “hero lawyer,” clearly!)

We discuss Cara’s ongoing creative venture, called “Pony and Pony: Ponies-at-Law,” about the adventures of Tristan and Pascal, sibling puppet ponies (and proud Seton Hall Law graduates) intent on opening a law practice. Originally a comic, Cara first turned this concept into a short film, then into a webisode called “Pony Radio.” She’s now in the process of transforming it into a musical. (Get your tickets before they’re hot, folks!) Cara and I also chat about how a slow Saturday night inspired the film, how her ponies graduated from law school even before she did (natch!) and how she managed to film an amazing number of webisodes in one day. (Hint: it took a lot of organization, some professorial expertise, and a few puppeteers’ patience—and their forearm strength….)

Cara and I also discuss her decision to open a solo practice—on Labor Day, no less—and its many benefits: from managing a variety of legal matters, to helping triage issues at the outset, to the potential to become close with clients. And, of course, the ultimate benefit: never having a boring day!

As for those interested in opening a solo practice, Cara advises that you shouldn’t “not do something because you’re afraid,” but on the other hand, “don’t commit malpractice!” We discuss the resources out there for those want to follow in her footsteps; the many advantages of a clerkship; and the simple value of attending cases in open court to learn from attorney appearances—both good and bad.

Finally, we chat about the really important stuff: how Cara’s mother was right (hope you’re listening, Cara’s mom!); how Legally Blonde is way more realistic than the Paper Chase (that is, if you want to truly be prepared for law school); and how Seton Hall Law will open a lot of doors—just not any hotel room doors! Plus, the all-important no-drinking-for-24-hours-before-anything-meaningful rule that Cara now has, thanks to Johnny Depp, a hangover, and an infamous hockey game…

You can learn more information about Cara and her practice, here; and about Puppet Ponies, here.

P.S. For those of you with an ear for music, we had a little bit of unintentional accompaniment from the band playing next door…it’s always an experience to record!

P.P.S. And more exciting news! The music featured on this week's episode (and all future episodes) is called “Entering the Bar Theme Music,” composed by Sam Carden for Entering the Bar®.

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